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Post by litekpr on Dec 16, 2008 10:24:58 GMT -4
So overall how were they recieved? Thought I may hear a bit more about em, HW must be out xmas shopping for my present...  Doe tags? Moose? |
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Post by huntwisely on Dec 17, 2008 10:24:34 GMT -4
Mike Pollard, President of the Federation gave a good presentation regarding a meeting he had with the native moose negotiators.
One interesting point is that the natives have a count of the moose killed going back many years, but DNR has never asked for them. The most important thing is that the native group wants to meet with the Federation regularly as they believe that DNR has not explained what the Federation is doing to them completely or correctly and that DNR has not explained the native position to the Federation completely and correctly.
After discussion, It was decided not to put forth a resolution to this end, as what was asked for and more is already happening.
What we will do is write a letter to the Federation commending them on the efforts so far, encourage more effort on moose conservation issues and to pressure DNR to be more open with and co-operative with the Federation and other conservation groups regarding wildlife issues.
More to come on the other resolutions...
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Post by litekpr on Dec 17, 2008 14:49:34 GMT -4
Hmmmm.... I have yet to hear of ANYONE, recording or REPORTING how many,when,where or how much was paid to take a moose during the native hunt....not to mention the ones left behind too far from the road. Betting none of you can say with HONESTY that ANY moosehunt sold to a NON native was properly reported either. My point of putting forth this resolution was to make it known to the public and go on record that NON native hunters/BANS were NOT happy with the current "status quo" with regards to the slaughter taking place in the Highlands UN checked/UN recorded/UN documented/UN regulated. It shows responsibilty at least on "someone's" part IMO... One would think the Fed/BANS would want that also. Kind of perplexed as to why they wouldn't? Kinda typical to see DNR blamed however as I understand it DNR is provincial and has no say in Native issues thats Federal. They (DNR) seems to live at the bottom of the hill/Hunters Mntn. and we know which way certain things fall eh? Make a great scapegoat tho...  Next year's resolution.... change the name to something differant than "Hunter's " mntn. kpr <<< born on a Tuesday but it wasn't yesterday...   <<for now |
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Post by huntwisely on Dec 17, 2008 16:05:03 GMT -4
But is is recorded as per The Federation Meeting with the native group negotiating the moose hunt. The fact they have never given the numbers to DNR is soloely because DNR hasn't asked for them.
The natives are also concerned with the non natives accompanying natives on hunts and have some realistic and positives ideas towards it.
The letter we write to the Federation will be visible and I am going to request that it get publish in the Nova Outdoors. I believe The Federation will also use it to it's advantage with DNR, etc.
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Post by litekpr on Dec 18, 2008 12:41:48 GMT -4
Here is a link to the resolutions proposed thread... bowhuntersofns.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=resolutions&action=display&thread=321Here is what I am referring to...specifically.. "BANS put fwd a motion to the Federation to start working on the Govt and Native leaders to STOP the mess happening in the highlands. It is a blackeye on ALL hunters of Nova Scotia to allow it to continue. I would like nothing more than to see BANS pushing for this to happen as we should be seen as concerned about conservation no matter if it is slugs in a swamp or moose in the highlands." IMO... The Federation and native leaders telling each other there is a problem and including the provincal DNR in that circle is about whats been happening for the last...how many years? STILL, IT CONTINUES. The whole idea of it...coupled with what went on the NSH thread at the time, was that all that was/has been going on is TALKING while moose (unknown numbers of moose) are dying. I think if what it takes is publicly speaking out aside from the Federation BANS should do so....on their OWN if they have to. CONSERVATION is out the window with regards to what is happening up there. I KNOW IT... YOU KNOW IT... EVERYONE KNOWS IT... Yet, it's okay to turn a blind eye to it? "The natives are also concerned with the non natives accompanying natives on hunts and have some realistic and positives ideas towards it." BULL PUCKY!!! If they were they would put a stop to it immediately. They can, they haven't, and they have no plans of doing so. They are quite happy to hold meeting after meeting after meeting for as long as they can...... They are laffin their asses off IMO...and they should. |
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Dec 18, 2008 12:50:53 GMT -4
KPR when I get a little more time I'll try to answer your questions for you and explain why a letter would be better served over a resolution. I was able to sit in on the meeting with the Federation and the Mi’kmaq negotiation representatives. I get to sit in a a lot of meetings, or get updates form these meeting.
First I'm going to state that much of the dialog that goes on within some of these forums is based on OLD information. I honestly believe that they (the Mi’kmaq people) are not the bad people and missuses of the resource others would describe them to be. I can say this based on FACTs I get from being on the inside looking out and not the outside looking in.
Please stay tuned.......
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Dec 18, 2008 13:03:01 GMT -4
oh and just so you know major step have been taken and for what they have accomplished in 3 years with these talks are 100% beneficial to the solution.
Season's delt with, and will be implemented
NON NATIVE accompaniment delt with and will go forward
Harvest reporting delt with
commercialization still a work in progress but head way is being made. They have agreement on some part but still question on other parts.
Are there issues still to be worked out? Yes but the discussions and meetings are on going and will continue.
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Dec 18, 2008 13:19:13 GMT -4
KPR on your non native issue
The 13 Bands have come to the agreement the NO non-native shall partake in the hunt unless..
This is a big issue to them. First there are many FAMILY units that have a mixed back ground (both native and non native members) They have agreed to and will go forward with the consensus that if you are a FAMILY member and have ties to the band as a non native the band can issue you a permit to go on the hunt with family band members. You will not be able to carry a weapon but only assist in the camp, pack, scouting ect.
Dec 6, 2008 was the first sit down meeting between the Federation and the Mi’kmaq negotiation reps. They have agreed to meet quarterly to discuss issues and future talks. The Federation is not/can not negotiate with the Mi’kmaq people but being able to sit across the table and discuss issues is MAJOR.
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Post by acadianarcher on Sept 21, 2011 18:50:05 GMT -4
any update on the resolutions ?? or did it get resolved to not have any more resolutions ??LOL
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Post by ARROW SLINGER on Sept 24, 2011 21:01:15 GMT -4
there are a few on record still that people keep bringing up, but havent heard anything new to date??
AGM will be the place to submit any for BANS support.
But from the last federation meeting all old ones are still active and making progress and always being reviewed.
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