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Post by ARROW SLINGER on Jul 25, 2007 5:13:29 GMT -4
- Trail Cameras: Some are starting to question the ethical use of modern electronics, are to many hunters using them to collect trophies while the rest of the herd is left to grow out of control or even be wiped out in some areas by too much herd information leading to hunters taking the easy kills.
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Post by noluck on Jul 26, 2007 10:00:35 GMT -4
I find the trail camera thing to be a bit surprising. How many on here agree with that statement? I think that it is a great tool for people who only have a short time to get their hunting done and to know what is coming down the trail at what time is the best way to maximize their hunt. I don't know what the 'for' argument is, perhaps it has to do with being able to hunt both does and bucks? Unless we get drawn for the anterless tag we have to take antlered deer. Any thoughts?
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Post by huntwisely on Jul 26, 2007 10:24:26 GMT -4
Their concern is with the proliferation of cams that in real time will e-mail the pics toa cellphone. What is happening south of the border and probably will here eventually if condoned is that someone puts out a number of cams, and can zero in on a deer based on the pics arriving on his cell phone and predict which stand he should move to in some cases.
Does it result in a deer harvested, is it "hunting" or "shooting" - all questions to be debated in the near future.
to me maximizing my hunt isn't necessarily putting a big'un in the freezer, it is getting as much time as I can in the woods and getting as close as I can to the critter I dispatch and enjoying the company I keep, the meals outddors , the camps, etc.
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Post by noluck on Jul 26, 2007 10:51:54 GMT -4
I can understand now how that is negative. And I agree HW that the best part of the hunt is the time in the woods. But again we see that everyone will get painted with the same brush. I like seeing all kpr's pics and it would suck if a few bad apples ruined it for everyone.
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Post by noluck on Jul 26, 2007 10:53:19 GMT -4
I'm just using kpr's pics as an example to point out that it has some good uses.
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Post by huntwisely on Jul 26, 2007 11:14:22 GMT -4
I agree NoLuck - I may get one myself for preseason scouting, especially for bear, but it would not be capable of e-mailing me pics and it wouldn't be in the woods in hunting season.
But that is just me ...
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Post by litekpr on Jul 26, 2007 13:03:01 GMT -4
I would agree having a dozen cell cams e-mailing pics of deer and using that way may be unethical, not mention not much fun. Hunting and the game you bring home is what you make of it, the self satisfaction of doing it that way may appeal to the type guy who would drop a deer with a light or in a fenced in area and try and register it as a trophy gotten somewhere outside a fence. I dunno it doesn't appeal to me. I started with t-cam 2yrs ago, the only useful info I have gained from them is that I had a nice bear coming along with 3 others...2 of which I would have taken in previous years. Other than that for deer, I knew lastyear from getting ONE pic of a deer I was after that it had passed where I had seen it's tracks and him already...all it did in the end was make me go there more often with the expectation we may cross paths. I think my pic count from trailcams is around 5000 now ;D and it will keep rising. Exactly how would they enforce a ban on trailcams? I think thinking like this is kind of a waste of time an money/effort, and that SOME PEOPLE have got a bit too much time on their hands or feel they need to make themselves look like they are doing something somehow  About all they would do is stop people posting pics on websites, and most times... THAT's THE BEST PART!!! |
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Post by alpo on Jul 26, 2007 13:24:17 GMT -4
I think it would take a lot more hunters locally to have such a negative impact on N.S.'s deer herd.
Despite the efforts of the NABC to limit the use of technology, i don't think anyone hunting legally in this province is capable of having much negative effect on the overall herd, but i guess i must be one of the ones who need the bigger picture pointed out to me.
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Jul 27, 2007 11:29:40 GMT -4
One of the conceerns i have heard about is the "internet hunting". It's still up and going in Texas, and is making waves in the US
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Post by litekpr on Jul 27, 2007 11:51:48 GMT -4
I "heard" and cannot find.... that there is a place a person can actually aim and fire a rifle via the i-net, some hunting ranch....somewhere south of here.Virtual hunt....Is that it Pointy?
I believe that may be going a bit far but given tec-know-all-odgy nowadays absolutely can see that happening.
I mean if the military can fly a missle down a chimmney or in an air vent from Wyoming somewhere in Iraq.....
Money talks and trophies sell I think that may be the larger problem is the promotion of "the trophy" but how could you ever stop that?
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Jul 27, 2007 12:05:29 GMT -4
Mass has a law in front of the legislature which will make it illegal in Mass to even take part in such hunts.
Yes KPR that what I was referring to the ranch is in Texas and has been operating for a couple of years now.
One of the concerns voiced is that by using the trail cam and timers your able to determine when an animal is moving in that area. Kind of takes the sport out of it.
What we as hunters have to keep in mind is that technology is a double edge blade. It can make some things easier or better to some of us. But it is also observed by the public, news, lawmakers and the anti's. There is a much larger influence against thing the majority of folks see as unethical or un-sportsman like.
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