Whisper Biscuits

[litekpr]

Okay it is quiet in here isn't it?
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
How did you remedy it?
Is it normal?
Happens after firing 20-30 arrows, seems to make arrows spiral/wobble when fired at a longer distance 40yds+(in the yard only for fun)

[archeryman57]

Looks like you have to much hair arround the hole. Same as a wisker biscuit (aka bearded clam). Makes me wobble just looking at it.

[ironfistcanada]

Only the Prez can get away with that.

[biggame]

The guys down at our club swear by the biscuits. Although one guy who shoots a 80# bow hates them. He said because of his high draw weight, the biscuit was wearing out in like two weeks or so and causing his arrow to fish tail. I am wondering if that is the same problem you are having. What is your bow set at?

[POINTY STICKS]

KPR although I don't shoot compound I know that the biscut is widely used. If you were to ask A2 he might be able to help. I have also heard a lot of guys do not like those rest and opt for a drop away. Don't know if you have ever tried one or not.

[litekpr]

Bow is set at 52lb, this was set for me at Raven in New Minas... 29 draw....65% let off...maybe you guys could explain let off to me???
I have tried the two pronged rests on a friends bow, don't know if that is what you mean, kinda liking this though, works well for me.
To fix this I simply rum a practice point through the mats and it straightens out for a while.(not a problem "on stand")
On another site someone suggested Armour All on my vanes...sounds interesting, but well I dunno?(slippery at wrongtime maybe)
Eeeeasy with slippery there 57.
You guys may have seen this elsewhere but the WB seems to work pretty good for me.
I had dismantled WB to try and adjust placement of black whiskers so vanes wouldn't pass through them then replaced it on bow...needs adjustment, firing high and right.
This is from 30yds....#2 hits #1...3&4 are compensated toward the X on purpose and #5, the vane was torn on the last round, aimed for bottom left corner and the arrow goes between bottom and middle bale.
Listen to it in flight coming in.
Could get expensive staying in one spot.
www.zippyvideos.com/6428187693400176/arrow_smashin/*litekpr

[POINTY STICKS]

KPR here is how I understand "LET OFF" Compound bows have wheels at the ends of the limbs( as you know). The axles which these wheels are mounted to the bow with can be placed in different locations on the wheel. This allows the axle to be off center of the wheel. Now when you draw your bow you rotate the wheel until it cam's over. This is when the "LET OFF" takes place. An easy example is if your shooting a 100lb compound with a 65% let off. You use 100 lbs of force to draw the bow until it cams over at the end of your draw. At this point in time you only need 35lbs of resistance to hole the bow at full draw.

That is the major between compounds and traditional bows. A trad bow stores energy through the whole draw length. My recurve is measured and marked at 58# at the standard 28" draw. Now I draw between 30-31 inches which allows my bow to store more energy. The last time I checked the bow with a bow scale I'm pulling 62-64 lbs at my draw. Now as I said trad bows do not have a let off, so in order for us to draw and hold our bows at full draw we must be able to apply equal to or greater than the draw weight resistance with both arms. That same reason is also why you will find that a lot of trad guy do not hold their draw very long and why you'll hear the term instinctive shooting used a lot.

Kpr have you or anybody else checked your nocking point lately? If either the biscuit location has changed slightly (even due to wear) or the nocking point on the string is of that might effect your arrow from passing squarely through the biscuit. Another thing I have heard of is using low profile vanes. They don't reach as deep into the hairs on the biscuit there for only pass through the softer ones.

I hope this helps, and if I have made any errors in this explanation I hope that somebody steps in a helps me out.

[litekpr]

Great explanation thank you.
The softer whiskers...was told the Black ones at botton were stiffer, this is why I dis-assembled it in order to rotate so the vanes wouldn't pass through them.
You can see in pics that at 5oclock the vane passes just on the border. I thought it could be rotated but this isn't possible due to the opening for the arrow.
I will replace it before next season for practice and when it is made up I will ensure it is cut differant(the disc) so vanes don't pass as close.
Thought it was the knock and went to Raven last fall he adjusted and we fired a few outback. I had in fact combed out the biscuit just before I went, thus defeating finding out this was the problem til I fired some at home.

Now how are we gonna get this place going?
Anyone want to talk politics?.....lol/jk
KPR

[True fire]

:)Had the chance to fire using the biscuit and did not like it. If you are going for very accurate shooting then the biscuit is not what you need. Your arrow is pushing through bristles that are changing all the time. I have noticed that the hairs on the biscuits seem to bunch up after a period of time and shooting.

Get yourself a drop-down rest by Quick tune. ( the qick tune 4000 or the 2000. The 4000 is a micro adjust.)

Your arrow is also flexing as it moves through the biscuit and pending on your arrows they might be hitting the top and bottom a few to many times.

Have a Great one

[bearman460hank]

IV tryed a few rests and i like mine I shoot wiyh yhe blazer vanes to and really like them have had no prob with my vanes coming off cats ass hunting gear if ya ask me.

[litekpr]

I like em too Hank, keeps the arrow in place.
I have tried the others and think I'll stick with the biscuit.

KPR ;D

[POINTY STICKS]

KPR your still going to use the biscuit. When you going to step into the dark side LOL, thought HW would have talked your ear off about it buy now. ;D

[litekpr]

Well first I think it would be appropriate to make sure my bear wasn't luck...
HW, yes, mentions it at every opportunity, great exposure for the discipline.



LOL

KPR ;D