aans/fca membership

[alpo]

I guess i am just slow, but i do not see direct answers to the questions i , or bowhunter raised here.....

does joining a club automatically make you require EXTRA insurance, for things that are already covered by anorther plan you may already be paying for ?
( I am led to believe that the answer to this is YES, AANS does require us to be EXTRA-insured )

and.... can BANS get affiliated with the FCA ?
( I am guessing from what i have read that the answer to this is NO, as the FCA is target/ 3Darchery & competition group, with hunting issues only affecting it slightly, if at all, under the balnket statments of "Promotes unity within the archery community &
Represents archers to the government and national agencies " <from www.fca.ca/FCAINFO.html#provide >)

Bowhunters Question : has BANS ever looked into the cost of providing liability insurance for it's members?
( i think Pointy Sticks did anwser that one, kinda "Not 100% on this but I'm lead to believe that it had been looked into the past and was found to be to time consuming and not profitable in the fact that somebody would have to volunteer to administrate this. " )

I will repeat another Question I had & get ready to be flamed for my absence " Was the AANS / BANS relationship & these issues of competing for membership & such, as discussed on this board, nsh.com's board as well as the AANS message board, discussed or touched on at the AGM ?

[ArcheryMan]

Alpo. What is it that you want? Do you want ins to be able to go to some 3-D shoots? Do you have a problem with joining AANS? Do you hunt? This is all pretty straight forward now. If you want to shoot 3-D, join AANS. If you do any hunting at all, then join one of the associations belonging to the NSFAH. Sounds like people want someone else to help them rock their boat for them. If you pitch in and help you may make a difference. Attend the AANS AGM next month and talk to them under new business about what they are willing to do for the hunting in Nova Scotia. Does this help with your questions?

[bowhunter]

I'm kinda disappointed that Alpo, being a BANS member and asking a solid question on a BANS sponsored webiste , would receive a reply like that. Archeryman, are you a BANS member or are you merely here canvassing for AANS. I have seen what AANS can do for hunting in NS and it isn't alot. In fact, two of the moderators on the site are non-hunters and some of their statements border on the anti-side.

[alpo]

Archeryman, I want BANS to have a stronger membership base, to become a stronger voice as a lobby group that is protecting & enhancing my hunting privileges.
Based soley on the info I have read here in these forums I have mentioned, I have discovered that there is a disconnect between these 2 associations, which do compete for members, albeit indirectly, but there are still members who choose one or the other, rather than both or more.
To be perfectly honest I was quite content to simply be one of the yahoo bowhunters who got to enjoy the extra time in the wood with no care or concern for the hard work that went into getting it for me. But GaryM13's "stepped up to the plate" thread on NSH.COM got me thinking.... and i joined BANS..... now that i am a member i find out that thats not enough cred to ask a couple of questions.... If I come to the meeting and ask them.. will the answer be volenteer to the executive committee and then you will know, followed by go ahead & call all those folks yourself & tell us what you find out ?
And yes, I do have some problem with supporting AANS being mandatory to joining a local Club, using the insurance coverage as the selling point, when many of us already PAY for coverage elsewhere, and do not feel the need to support tournament archery finacially.
My questions have still not been directly answered here, except by my own summation of info I did find online, & Pointy Sticks un-official "i think it was looked at & dropped by others in the past".
From the looks of things i could get involved & rise quite quickly to the top of such an organization, simply by showing up, then it would be me folks would asking why i do not do more. Could i use that same line.... "i think it was looked at & dropped by others in the past"....?

[alpo]

BTW, thank you Pointy Sticks for your quick & cordial responces to my e-mailed questions & comments.

[archeryman]

Alpo, the questions that you want answered about AANS/BANS relationship would be best answered by the old guys that formed BANS. Because there was a need for a bowhunting voice, the association was formed. Up til now BANS has done quite well. I agree that a stronger membership base would acheive more. 3000 bow tags each year and 150 members does not show a strong representation. Well if we had 2000 members then I think that we just might get our moose tags. When there has been a cause, that was when we had the strongest numbers.
Bowhunter, I will canvas for BANS and I will also canvas for AANS, because they each have their proper place. It may have been a solid question that Alpo asked, but it is not an easy one for me to answer. Or anyone for that matter. They are not all cut and dried as much as we would like them to be. This is information that would have to be researched and then maybe put in some form of archive so it would be there for future reference. I am willing to listen to anyone that wants to take on the task of researching these posible solutions. Think it over and let me know please.

[bowhunter]

So... Archeryman....am I to assume you are somehow associated with either organization? I see you are registered here as a guest.
Before I commit to working on anything, I would like to know that you are somehow in a position to make such statements.

[archeryman]

Thanks Bowhunter. Because I have limited computer access it is not easy to show my whole hand of cards. As you may have figured, by now, I am in the position of pres. It is much easier for me to respond by private e-mail most of the time. I do check my e-mails daily, but not the forums.
Also we are looking into compiling our archives for future reference.

[bowhunter]

Archeryman...honestly I didn't realize it was you Clair. I meant no disrespect.
However, I have never been one to keep my opinion quiet. I understand that not all matters need to be publically broadcast, but, how do members get access to information? If by private email, that's fine, but, that should be announced on the site somewhere. Also, if that's the case, what is the true function of this site?
I also think that people should be aware of the executive and their usernames, so that there is no confusion and questions can be addressed to the right people.

[huntwisely]

I am working on finding donated space for a site that would enable a better dissemination of facts for BANS members. GeoCities is limited unless the the full meal deal is paid for.

That is part of the reason the sites seems static. We have space left, but run into bandwidth problems with any more info. SO I have to decide what to take off in order to put something new in.

It will happen, it only takes time and sponsors.

[archeryman57]

Well Blake now that I can sign in as a member we can let folks know that Archeryman57 is the president of BANS for the 05-06 year.
Superdave is our treasurer, Pointysticks is our secretary and membership chairperson.
Squirrel is the past president. And Horseshoe is our VP.
A key on the front page would be helpfull for those new to our site.

[fstmm]

as was stated before by others, why is tere not a page on here that discussed the going on at the agm, aans has a section for all to see, i think this would help your membership as alot of people wont commit to joining something they are not going to be shown what they are doing for them, you can simply say, they do all that is bowhunting in ns, but lets be realistic, thats pretty broad istn it. would it be possible to post minutes of the agm on this site? perhaps it may hlep

[POINTY STICKS]

I'm not going to say that it's not going to happen, but at this time with the web service we have it makes it more difficult. The site has been up and running for a number of years and is now in the process of trying to get it modernized. It has only been the last 6 months or so that anyone has even been using the site. The AGM minutes issue, has been brought up several times, all I can say is that it's hard to make public minutes to meetings that the members have not yet voted on to except. That being said BANS is working on finding the space to allow more usage of the site. When this is achieved, the hope is that we will be able to better interact with all who wish to use the site. Yes we would be looking to at the very least putting an outline on the site of the meetings and in time maybe have the minutes of past AGMs and possibly past News Letters.The hope is also to try and have a members only section where key issues can be put out to gather oppinions from our members. All this takes time and I hope that, as time goes on, these issues can be put to rest. Thank you for you interest and questions.