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Post by ironfistcanada on Apr 15, 2006 8:52:58 GMT -4
Does anybody have info on this proposed 3D archery association. Would be good to view it as this kind of thing could benefit BANS in a big way. Just wondering John.
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Post by POINTY STICKS on Apr 16, 2006 6:59:43 GMT -4
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Post by alpo on Apr 18, 2006 16:17:57 GMT -4
AM57 posted this on the AANS site : "A couple of questions; When the 3D Assoc. gets rolling, will it bring more shooters out from their own backyards? Do shooters KNOW that they have to be a qualified BOWHUNTER to shoot in their backyard? "
& i asked there, and now here...
Does that not also apply to all AANS members aswell as non-members anywhere except maybe at an AANS affiliated clubhouse or sanctioned shoot ? Does that mean that all who shoot a bow outside of their homes or off the club properties must be qualified Bowhunters? That would affect alot of the non-sanctioned clubs & shoots greatly,if it was ever enforced.
and how does it or could it affect this new association who have possibly have neither the bowhunters course or the FCA affiliated insurance ? I admittedly have never been to a 3d shoot, but have wondered ( and wandered ) how lucritive they are or potentially could be. Could the BANS membership drive be bolstered by offering a free round at the BANG-UP..?.. Or by hosting an annual membership shoot..? maybe thats the intent of the bang up anyways, i do not know.
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Post by archeryman57 on Apr 18, 2006 20:50:04 GMT -4
I have a copy of the App. form.
The new 3D association will provide insurance for the members. Most 3D shooters are qualified bowhunters. Using a bow in game habitat requires a bowhunting certificate. Other than registered archery ranges. For example; if Durango's range is not registered then all shooters need a bowhunting card. If it was enforced. I don't see how offering free rounds will increase memberships. It is mostly the same archers each year. It would be the hosting club losing money by having their targets shot. Not many clubs can afford to host a free shoot. Twenty targets can cost $8,000.
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Post by alpo on Apr 19, 2006 8:56:57 GMT -4
Thanks for the responce AM57.
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Post by huntwisely on Apr 20, 2006 12:12:45 GMT -4
In addition, if you are shooting in your backyard, and you don't have the minimum distance (179 yards, I believe) from your neighbour's house you are supposed to have the person's written permission. If your yard is game habitat , then you need to be a trained bow hunter.
For example - Both the Fita field and the 3 D course at St Mary's constitute game habitat. Anyone (member or guest) can shoot there as it is private archery range, with the necessary signs posted, etc. - but If you set up a 3D target at your camp, and the camp is in game habitat) you would have to be a trained bowhunter to shoot there.
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Post by archer2 on Apr 26, 2006 17:09:06 GMT -4
You'll also find that there is no place in Nova Scotia that is not game habitat if you look closely at the rules. Have you ever noticed that there are squirrels in the cities too as are the deer.
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Post by Squirrel nut on Apr 27, 2006 3:40:28 GMT -4
"Have you ever noticed that there are squirrels in the cities too as are the deer. " Yes we know there are more squirrels in the cities.
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Post by huntwisely as guest on Apr 27, 2006 11:03:37 GMT -4
The new association, from what I am told has over 50 members. The new application indicates that the insurance they have is from the Firearm association and is cheaper than the FCA's for 5,000,000 dollars coverage. Not sure if it is supplemental insurance or actual insurance . Will investigate
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Post by huntwisely as guest on Apr 27, 2006 11:12:27 GMT -4
Is that because there are more nuts in the cities ?? ... lol
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Post by alpo on Apr 27, 2006 11:35:29 GMT -4
Is there anything that suggests this new association will benifit BANS in any way ?
Or simply another group that may eventually be competeing for members with both BANS & AANS. And if the answer is simply "join both of those", then why not simply join this new one too, the more the better , right ?
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Post by huntwisely as guest on Apr 27, 2006 11:54:41 GMT -4
There is nothing to suggest that the New Association will benefit BANS and they appear to have issues with AANS - so who knows
They only way they could benefit BANS that I see is to get their members to join BANS or at least show up at the BANG-UP.
BUT - all I have seen in their application and a member of the group indicated the number of members so far.
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Post by alpo47 on May 2, 2006 16:00:16 GMT -4
The link provided for the Alberta Bowhunters Association states both that they were united with the target archer, and that they are seperate, and archers have the choice of joining either association & getting the same FCA membership insurance policy & national compitition privilages. It also states that the ABA is the governing body for their provincial 3D circuit. The link to the Manatoba Association seems to be even more intigrated. Unless of course i read that all completely wrong... what are the hurdles preventing the AANS / BANS merger that would or could still honour each factions needs, to the point where each could even retain its current name & political structure, but be able to claim all the combined memberships for whatever lobby or funding purposes where the additional members would be veiwed as favourable assets. What did i miss ? Hey, while i am rambling, didn't someone post that Alberta has a seperate 3D association also ? was that accurate ? If we are all achers 1st or whatever.... why can't we agree on one banner flagship, with multiple sub-discilpines representing themselves as they each see fit ? And calling themselves whatever they want as far as i am concerned.
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Post by archeryman57 on May 3, 2006 5:10:00 GMT -4
Good points Alpo47. I wonder if the orgs merge would this encourage more members that have been sitting on the fence.
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Post by NockOn as Guest on Jun 5, 2006 10:01:15 GMT -4
I wouldn't use the Alberta Assoc. for a good exemple. I have a friend over there who held the Canadian record for FITA a couple of years ago and he belongs to the 3D assoc. because the whole place is a big gaggle F***.
I think Manitoba would be a better place to look at as far as integrating all disciplines under one roof.
Cheers,
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